What is the big deal with gay marriage?

Sure, its a disgusting perversion of the very concept, but what does it have to do with me? Why don't we just call Marriage legally a Civil Union and include same sex marriage within it's boundaries. Then we can leave it to religious groups to define marriage. I really is useless to deny anyone, gay or not, the ability to bind themselves with another person. I am tired of hearing people argue about something so trivial.What is the big deal with gay marriage?
Marriage was a civil institution long before religion tried to usurp it. It was created in many civilizations to provide orderly transfer of property and rights at death. No divine edict required.What is the big deal with gay marriage?
I've no objection to it.





@Douglas:


%26lt;%26lt;RELIGION CREATED MARRIAGE%26gt;%26gt;





Evidence? Or is that just an empty assertion that we can ignore?





@cheir:


%26lt;%26lt;Because homosexuals are trying to force religious groups, who regard it is unacceptable, to accept it.%26gt;%26gt;





Evidence? Who is forcing any religious person into a gay marriage? Or even a non-religious person? Don't marriages rely on CONSENT?





@sad_blue_eyes:


%26lt;%26lt;this is a battle for moral decency%26gt;%26gt;





And which side are you on, in terms of being law abiding and decent? Moral people don't bully others. I am straight and have no tolerance for any sort of anti-gay discrimination, as that is indecent, immoral bullying. Imposing your will on others is what dictators do.





Evidence of proportions of decent law-abiding folk here: http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm








Try mine on this marriage subject...
Douglas, you're wrong...





... Ironically, as incest became less likely due to circumstance, it was an integral part of the first civilization that recognized the idea of marriage in law; ancient Egypt. Many Pharaohs took sisters and daughters amongst their numerous wives, the idea being to keep their dynastic bloodline truer than it would otherwise had been. Although this practice was not that common among middle and lower classes. Here, the marriage also existed as a legally enforceable fact, and the wives actually had more rights in this ancient land than for a large segment of modern western history, including the right of divorce.





The engagement was also invented by the ancient Egyptians, for the couple to get to know each other better, and see that they were indeed compatible. The marriage contract stipulated all rights of both the bride and groom, and their duties as well, so they knew what to expect before the wedding itself.





The dowry was also in reverse here, where the prospective groom and his parents would go to the bride's home, and he would pay her parent's money to show he was capable of earning and keeping their daughter in good standing. He would also buy a personal gift for her, usually either made of gold or a gemstone.





The wedding itself would be a colorful affair, with a feast and much singing and dancing, before the newlyweds would retire for some private time together, with fresh wheat thrown into the air by the revelers to symbolize fertility....





It had NOTHING to do with the christain religion!
And I agree with you. NOTHING anyone says will change the practice of two people loving each other, whether it be between a man and a woman, a man and a man, or a woman and another woman. This has been going on ever since recorded history so why is it so ';disgusting'; now? What I have notice lately though is that religious peoples are on this high horse of trying to tell people how they should live their own lives and the word I grew up hearing that referrs to this is, ';communism.'; What ever happened to the days when religious peoples used to keep their own ways IN their respective worship places????????
why dont you shut up?marriage is between a man and a woman.gays are trying to steal that away.they've already ruined society.why dont they just go back in their closet,and quit contaminating the rest of the world!


and the argument will only get more heated.as long as the liberals wanna fight,us conservatives will take them on!this is a battle for moral decency-who cares about equality?those gay losers are in for the fight of their life.you think its bad now?you just wait.cuz the more fagatry gets all the honor and glory,the more evil and corrupt things will get.and i guarantee you,that evil has a lifeline.it may go on for a time being.but it will be called to accountability.fagatry WILL NOT have the final victory.it will reap the consequences of everything evil that it sowed.
It's not so trivial to us gays. You are right though. I think straight sex is a disgusting perversion -- that doesn't mean I want to ban straight marriage.





Response to Hyacinth: Lol. Give us an inch and we'll take a mile. People said that about their slaves too.
It will destroy the sanctity of marriage and the Fundementalists who aren't already divorced will be forced to end their marriages and give in to their sinful same sex desires.
Douglas, religion did not create marriage. How do you explain the millions of marriages that have been based on the father trading the daughter for a cow?
Dunno why it's even illegal in some places. The main thing holding it back are fundies who feel they have to dictate what everyone does in the name of their religion.
honestly i get tired of hearing bout gay period. why can't they marry? is it a sin? why ppl hate it? i don't care!
some people like to control other peoples lives
It is only an issue with the religious right.
A gay marriage is not a REAL marriage.
If it's so trivial, why do people make a big deal out of it.





What we do affects others.
What does abortion have to do with you....nothing unless your an aborted baby.....











God bless
Because homosexuals are trying to force religious groups, who regard it is unacceptable, to accept it.


Wont happen.
RELIGION CREATED MARRIAGE so you are redefining religion it only became a license because divorce people didn't like paying off the bishops to get a divorce but if they bgot rid of marriage licences then thye could od what ever they wanted to
its a sin and immoral behavior





it is a big deal
By Victor J. Adamson





Question: ';Don't gays have the same right to marry as straight people? Isn't forbidding gays to marry a violation of their human rights?';





Reply: To answer your questions: No, and No again. I know that's simplistic, but it's correct.





Gays do have legitimate human rights, but they do not have the right to demand legislation to support them in something not approved of by society at large and that is clearly condemned in the Bible. Gays do have the right to be left alone, to live as they choose. But what I have observed is that the Gay Agenda is never satisfied.





First they wanted to be tolerated. They are tolerated.





Then they wanted to be accepted. They are accepted.





Next they wanted to be celebrated. Thanks to Bill Clinton, they now have the entire month of June every year to celebrate their Gay Pride, while all the Presidents are lumped into one Presidents Day, Mothers and Fathers and Christmas and Easter, etc. all get only one day. But homosexuals get an entire month!!! (By the way, Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed for their pride... Ezekiel 16:49)





Gays then pushed for promotion of homosexuality. It's now promoted, throughout the media and the education system and in various other ways and means.





Gays want to be ';privileged'; and are now classified as a ';minority'; being given special protections and privileges above society at large.





But that's not enough! Gays now want control and are lobbying for hate speech and hate crimes laws to prevent others from exercising their rights of free speech while gays boldly and openly say and do anything they want insensitive, at times, to the feelings and beliefs of others around them in public, and claim that crimes against gays are something more appalling than crimes against any other person in society. That's elitism!!





Finally, the Gay Agenda is now seeking legislation to sanction their lifestyle. Marriage was created by God in Eden to be between one man and one woman for, among other things, the purpose of pro-creation, to populate the planet. ';Be fruitful and multiply';, God said. It seems presumptuous and preposterous that the Gay Agenda would be so bold as to now seek the blessing of God upon a union that He so plainly condemns in the Bible, by seeking legislation that would allow them to marry.





You see, E___, it appears to me that the Gay Community is never to be satisfied; no, not until they have taken control. If you will read Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28, you will read about another character who had the same mindset and how God had to deal with him.





Please don't think me callous because of my expression of my view here. For years I lived in a gay relationship like marriage, with joint checking accounts, co-ownership with a home, visitation rights at the hospital, able to include my lover in my will, etc. Legalized marriage would have given me nothing I did not already have. Gay Marriage today is nothing more nor less than political posturing and publicity. As I said, I used to be Gay. And it was my study of God's Word that helped me see how blind I had been all those years, living in prideful defiance of society and in prideful rebellion against and defiance of God's expressed will for mankind and for my life in particular.





Now, as Jesus said to Mary: ';Neither do I condemn thee. Go, and sin no more!';





';Victor J. Adamson';





This article is by Victor J. Adamson